Fusion GPS Founder’s Senate Judiciary Testimony Released
The testimony of Glenn Simpson, co-founder of the research firm Fusion GPS, was released by the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Simpson testified in August.
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By Tim Mak January 9, 2018
The former British intelligence officer who authored the infamous Russia dossier wanted to show it to the FBI because he was concerned that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was being “blackmailed.”
Christopher Steele told the political research firm that hired him, Fusion GPS, that what he uncovered from Russian sources was serious enough to bring to the attention of U.S. law enforcement authorities, according to a transcript released on Tuesday.
The transcript, of an interview that Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson did with the Senate Judiciary Committee, was released on Tuesday by the committee’s top Democrat, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California.
Steele went to the FBI with the initial reports that would later comprise the dossier on alleged Trump-Russia ties as early as late June or early July of 2016, Simpson testified.
“Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national security threat and said … he thought we were obligated to tell someone in government,” Simpson told the Senate Judiciary Committee.
“He thought from his perspective there was … a security issue about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed.”
Simpson said he neither encouraged nor discouraged Steele about going to the FBI.
“This was like, you know, you’re driving to work and you see something happen and you call 911,” Simpson told investigators. He likened the sense of responsibility he said Steele felt to the professional duties that attorneys have in some cases to report a crime if they learn of one.
Steele eventually met with an FBI legal attaché in Rome in September 2016, more than two months after the initial outreach.
Steele later told to Simpson that he believed the FBI would consider his information credible because the Bureau had corroborating intelligence, including from a human source within the Trump organization.
Simpson did not identify the source in his Judiciary Committee testimony.
But in the late stages of the 2016 presidential campaign, Steele broke off with the FBI, Simpson said, because he did not believe it was taking him seriously enough.
“I understand Chris severed his relationship with the FBI out of concern that he din’t know what was happening inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people,” Simpson told the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Simpson gave testimony before the committee in August. The former reporter for the Wall Street Journal commissioned what proved to be Steele’s salacious — and unproven — dossier on Trump’s alleged ties to Russia.
NPR has not detailed the material contained in the dossier because it remains unverified, but it describes a concerted effort by powerful Russians to cultivate a relationship with Trump and his camp. It also describes lascivious behavior that might embarrass Trump or could have been used as leverage to influence him.
Fusion GPS was first hired in 2015 by a conservative donor to investigate Trump’s background in the early stages of the Republican presidential nominating process. Later, as Trump’s pathway to the Republican nomination became more assured, the firm was hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to continue that research.
As part of that research, Fusion GPS hired Steele, who had been the head of MI6’s Russia desk.
The resulting memos, written over the summer and fall of 2016, were explosive: They alleged that the Russian government had compromising material on the president and that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to defeat Clinton during the presidential elections.
Simpson has testified for more than 20 hours before three congressional committees regarding his firm’s role in commissioning the report. On Jan. 2, Simpson and fellow Fusion GPS co-founder Peter Fritsch called on congressional investigators to release their testimony.