Romney tells embattled Republican George Santos he ‘shouldn’t be in Congress’

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Romney tells embattled Republican George Santos he ‘shouldn’t be in Congress’

February 7, 2023

U.S. Senators at the U.S. Capitol in Washington
U.S. Senators at the U.S. Capitol in Washington
U.S. President Joe Biden delivers State of the Union address at the U.S. Capitol in Washington
U.S. President Joe Biden delivers State of the Union address at the U.S. Capitol in Washington

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Senator Mitt Romney told embattled fellow Republican Representative George Santos on Tuesday that should not be in Congress and shouldn’t have taken a central seat at President Joe Biden’s State of the Union address.

Romney, an elder statesman of the party and former Republican presidential candidate, was seen having a brief exchange with Santos, who has made multiple false claims about his past on his way into the House of Representatives chamber before the address.

“He shouldn’t be in Congress and they’re going to go through the process and hopefully get him out,” Romney told reporters after the speech. “But he shouldn’t be there and if he had any shame at all he wouldn’t be there.”

Romney said he had told Santos as much.

Santos, who represents a New York district, had taken a seat along the center aisle of the chamber, which the president, members of this Cabinet, Supreme Court justices and senators use to enter the hall.

Santos is facing ethics complaints from fellow members of Congress, but the House Ethics Committee has yet to organize for the next two years and thus cannot launch any potential investigation, an aide to Speaker Kevin McCarthy said earlier on Tuesday.

Santos has apologized for “embellishing” his resume but has rebuffed calls for his resignation from constituents and fellow New York state Republicans, saying he would vacate his seat only if he loses the next election, in 2024.

(Reporting by Gram Slattery; Editing by Scott Malone and Howard Goller)

C-SPAN captured a tense back-and-forth between George Santos and Mitt Romney at the State of the Union

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C-SPAN captured a tense back-and-forth between George Santos and Mitt Romney at the State of the Union

Bryan Metzger – February 7, 2023

Republican Rep. George Santos of New York at the State of the Union Address on February 7, 2023.
Republican Rep. George Santos of New York at the State of the Union Address on February 7, 2023.Win McNamee/Getty Images
  • George Santos and Mitt Romney had what appeared to be a tense exchange at the State of the Union.
  • C-SPAN cameras captured the interaction, but the two men gave competing accounts.
  • Following the speech, Santos tweeted that Romney “will NEVER be PRESIDENT!”

Before President Joe Biden entered the chamber to deliver his State of the Union address on Tuesday evening, Rep. George Santos found himself in an apparently tense conversation with fellow Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah.

C-SPAN cameras captured the tense interaction between Santos — the scandal-plagued Long Island congressman — and Romney, the party’s 2012 presidential nominee.

Following the speech, the Utah Republican told reporters that Santos is a “sick puppy” who “shouldn’t have been there.”

“He should be sitting in the back row and being quiet instead of parading in front of the president,” he told reporters, noting the ethics inquiries Santos faces.

Santos — not exactly the most reliable interlocutor — claimed to Semafor’s Kadia Goba that Romney called him an “ass” and that Santos retorted that Romney is a “much bigger asshole.”

And according to CNN, Romney simply told Santos: “You don’t belong here.”

Santos sat in a seat on the center aisle beside fellow Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, giving him the opportunity to shake dignitaries’ hands as they entered the chamber.

He could be seen shaking hands with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Whip John Thune, Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville, and even a couple of Democrats: Sens. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Dick Durbin of Illinois.

Following the speech, Santos tweeted that Romney “will NEVER be PRESIDENT!”

Black ‘1870’ pins worn by Congress members for State of the Union have deep significance

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Black ‘1870’ pins worn by Congress members for State of the Union have deep significance

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus wore black pins with the number “1870” on them, which marks the year of the first known police killing of an unarmed and free Black person in the U.S.

Marquise Francis, National Reporter – February 7, 2023

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An “1870” pin to be worn by members of the Congressional Black Caucus and others at the State of the Union address. (Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos courtesy of the office of Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman, Jabin Botsford/Washington Post via Getty Images)

At President Biden’s State of the Union speech Tuesday in which he addressed the country’s top issues before Congress, members of the Congressional Black Caucus and other Democrats made a bold statement of their own — albeit a silent one.

Many of them wore black pins with the number “1870” on them, which marks the year of the first known police killing of an unarmed and free Black person that occurred in the U.S. The pins are a call for action on reforming the institution of policing that has killed thousands of Black people in the 153 years since.

“I’m tired of moments of silence. I’m tired of periods of mourning,” New Jersey Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman, a Democrat who came up with the idea to create the pins, told Yahoo News ahead of the speech. “I wanted to highlight that police killings of unarmed Black citizens have been in the news since 1870, and yet significant action has yet to be taken.”

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Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman at an event at the Capitol to demand that Congress renew an assault weapons ban, July 12, 2016. (Leigh Vogel/Getty Images for MoveOn.org)

On March 31, 1870, 26-year-old Henry Truman, a Black man, was shot and killed by Philadelphia Officer John Whiteside after being accused of shoplifting from a grocery store.

Whiteside had allegedly chased Truman into an alley when at some point Truman turned to ask what he had done wrong, and the officer fatally shot him, according to an account in the Philadelphia Inquirer the following day. At trial, Whiteside claimed he had been ambushed by a crowd while he chased Truman. Whiteside was later convicted of manslaughter. That same year the country adopted the 15th Amendment, which granted Black men the right to vote.

Over a century and a half since Truman’s killing, a steady stream of Black people have been killed by law enforcement, including 1,353 since 2017, according to data from Statista, a digital insights company. In fact, Black Americans are three times as likely to be killed by police as white people are, and they account for 1 in 4 police killings despite making up just 13% of the country’s population.

Many of the parents, siblings and children of Black people killed by police over the last decade were invited to Tuesday’s address as guests of members of the Congressional Black Caucus. The guest list included the families of Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old who was gunned down by Cleveland police in 2014 on a playground; Amir Locke, the 22-year-old fatally shot by Minneapolis police in a predawn, no-knock raid last year; Tyre Nichols, the 29-year-old fatally beaten by Memphis police during a traffic stop early last month; and a dozen other families who have lost loved ones.

“I hope today that we can get Congress to see that we need to pass this bill because this should never happen,” Nichols’s mother, RowVaughn Wells, said Tuesday afternoon at a press conference with the Congressional Black Caucus. “I don’t wish this on my worst enemy.”

Rep. Steven Horsford, left, with RowVaughn Wells
RowVaughn Wells, mother of Tyre Nichols, who died after being beaten by Memphis police officers, speaks with reporters on Tuesday about police reform. (Cliff Owen/AP)

In contrast, several Republicans chose to honor members of law enforcement as their guests, including Rep. Mike Garcia of California, who brought Tania Owen, a retired detective and widow of a Los Angeles County sheriff’s sergeant who was shot and killed by a suspect when he answered a burglary-in-progress call in 2016. Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York and Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer of Oregon hosted police officers from their respective districts.

The invitations came after several other Republicans last week, during National Gun Violence Survivors Week, were photographed wearing AR-15 pins, which were passed out by Rep. Andrew Clyde of Georgia on the House floor. Clyde claimed the pins were “to remind people of the Second Amendment of the Constitution and how important it is in preserving our liberties.”

Many police reform advocates have argued that the systemic issues tied to policing transcend even racial lines, highlighting the fact that the five main officers involved in the brutal beating of Nichols were also Black.

“Blackness doesn’t shield you from all of the forces that make police violence possible,” James Forman Jr., a Yale law school professor and expert on race and law enforcement, told the New York Times. “What are the theories of policing and styles of policing, the training that police receive? All of those dynamics that propel violence and brutality are more powerful than the race of the officer.”

Karundi Williams, CEO of Re:power, an organization that trains Black people to become political leaders, told NBC News that addressing the core issues is the only way to prevent more killings.

“When we have moments of racial injustice that is thrust in the national spotlight, there is an uptick of outrage, and people take to the streets,” Williams said. “But then the media tends to move on to other things, and that consciousness decreases. But we never really got underneath the problem.”

Protesters gather at the Oscar Grant Plaza in Oakland, Calif., to protest the police killing of Tyre Nichols in Memphis
Protesters in Oakland, Calif., on Jan. 29 to protest the police killing of Tyre Nichols in Memphis. (Tayfun Coskun/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)

In 2022 alone, police killed 1,192 people, more than any year in the past decade, according to a new report released last week by the nonprofit Mapping Police Violence. Black people accounted for more than 300 of those killings. The report also claimed that many of these killings could have been avoided by changing law enforcement’s approach to such encounters, such as sending mental health providers to certain 911 calls.

But substantial police reform has continued to lag.

The 2021 George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, which was put forth following the murder of 46-year-old Floyd by Minneapolis police in 2020, seeks to end excessive force, qualified immunity and racial bias in policing and to combat police misconduct. The bill passed the House of Representatives twice in the previous Congress, but has continued to fail in the Senate.

“With the support of families of victims, civil rights groups, and law enforcement, I signed an executive order for all federal officers banning chokeholds, restricting no-knock warrants, and other key elements of the George Floyd Act,” Biden said in his State of the Union speech. “Let’s commit ourselves to make the words of Tyre’s mother come true, something good must come from this.”

Following the recent police killing of Nichols, members of the Black Caucus are cautiously optimistic that change will soon come.

“This unfortunately reignites the fervor and the necessity and the urgency,” Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, a ranking member of the Judiciary Subcommittee for Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations, recently told Yahoo News. “With 18,000 police communities, there has to be a federal law that addresses the training and the relationship between police. We have to restart.”

President Biden and Vice President Harris meet with members of the Congressional Black Caucus in the Oval Office last week
President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris meet with members of the Congressional Black Caucus in the Oval Office last week. (Susan Walsh/AP)

An info card attached to the black pin given to members of the Black Caucus expresses the frustration of numerous police killings from Truman to Nichols.

“153 years later, nothing has changed,” the note reads in part. “We are tired of mourning and demand change.”

McCarthy warns Republicans not to misbehave at State of the Union, promises no ‘childish games’ like Pelosi’s infamous speech tearing moment

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McCarthy warns Republicans not to misbehave at State of the Union, promises no ‘childish games’ like Pelosi’s infamous speech tearing moment

Oma Seddiq, Nicole Gaudiano – February 7, 2023

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House Speaker Kevin McCarthy; former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images; MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images
  • McCarthy swiped at Pelosi ahead of Biden’s state of the union address on Tuesday.
  • “We’re not going to do childish games tearing up a speech,” he told CNN.
  • Pelosi infamously ripped up a copy of Trump’s speech after his 2020 SOTU address.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy insisted that Republicans would show proper decorum during President Joe Biden’s state of the union address on Tuesday evening, swiping at former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s viral moment tearing up former President Donald Trump’s speech during his 2020 speech.

“We’re members of Congress. We have a code of ethics of how we should portray ourselves,” McCarthy told CNN’s Manu Raju on Tuesday. “And that’s exactly what we’ll do. But we’re not going to do childish games tearing up a speech.”

Privately, however, McCarthy has expressed concerns about his own caucus’ behavior and has warned them about their conduct, according to CNN’s Melanie Zanona.

Pelosi made headlines when she ripped up a copy of Trump’s speech after he delivered his third state of the union address three years ago. The top Democrat at the time remarked to reporters that “it was a courteous thing to do, considering the alternatives.”

“It was such a dirty speech,” she said.

McCarthy, the newly elected House speaker, will take Pelosi’s previous seat on the platform behind Biden during his address on Tuesday night. The president is planning to lay out his plans to advance his “unity agenda” this year, including policies to fight cancer, help veterans, provide mental health treatment, and fight opioid addiction.

In a closed-door meeting with the House Republican conference on Tuesday, McCarthy and other GOP leaders warned their members to behave during the address, CNN’s Melanie Zanona wrote.

The “cameras are on,” and the “mics are hot,” House GOP leadership reportedly said in the meeting.

Republicans in the past have made headlines with outbursts during past presidential State of the Union speeches, which are viewed by millions.

Rep. Lauren Boehbert of Colorado heckled Biden last year when he talked about how his son Beau’s death may have been linked to burn-pit exposure during his Iraq deployment. She shouted that he put “13 of them” in coffins, a reference to 13 American troops who were killed in Afghanistan during the US’ chaotic withdrawal.

Boehbert and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia also tried to start a “build the wall” chant last year during Biden’s speech.

Former President Barack Obama later said he was “shocked” and wanted to “smack” Rep. Joe Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, for yelling “you lie” during Obama’s 2009 State of the Union Address when he was talking about his plans for the Affordable Care Act.

“My initial instinct is, ‘Let me walk down and smack this guy on the head. What is he thinking?'” Obama said during a CBS interview in 2020 when his book “A Promised Land” was released.  “And instead, I just said, ‘That’s not true,’ and I just move on. He called afterward to apologize – although, as I point out in the book, he saw a huge spike in campaign contributions to him from Republicans across the country who thought he had done something heroic.”

12 of the most unforgettable moments from State of the Union addresses

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12 of the most unforgettable moments from State of the Union addresses

Shelby Slauer and Rebecca Cohen – February 7, 2023

12 of the most unforgettable moments from State of the Union addresses
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Former President Barack Obama during a State of the Union address.REUTERS/Mandel Ngan/Pool
  • The State of the Union address allows the US president to update Congress on the nation’s progress.
  • Former President Harry S. Truman’s speech in 1947 was the first to be broadcast on television.
  • Nancy Pelosi ripped up a copy of Donald Trump’s speech after he finished speaking.

Parts of Abraham Lincoln’s State of the Union speech were leaked and it prompted an investigation.

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His wife was accused of leaking information, but Lincoln said she hadn’t seen the speech in advance.Hulton Archive / Stringer / Getty Images

Hours after Abraham Lincoln sent his State of the Union address to Congress, the newspaper The New York Herald published a few excerpts from the speech that had been leaked. Readers of the paper got to see parts of the speech before it was formally released.

The leak prompted the House Judiciary Committee to launch an investigation into the cause of the leaks in February 1862.

Harry S. Truman’s speech in 1947 was the first to be broadcast on television.

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Former President Harry S. Truman giving the State of the Union address.AP/Byron Rollins

In 1947, Harry S. Truman’s State of the Union address was the first to be televised. At the time, television owners were only in the thousands, so most Americans missed his debut, instead listening to it on the radio.

Richard Nixon called for an end to the Watergate investigation during his State of the Union address in 1974.

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President Richard Nixon delivering the State of the Union address in 1974.AP Photo

In Nixon’s 1974 address, he called for an end to the Watergate investigation, saying, “one year of Watergate is enough.”

Then, just seven months later, the Watergate Scandal led Nixon to resign after five and a half years in office.

Ronald Reagan invited Lenny Skutnik to the address in 1982, starting a new tradition for State of the Union addresses.

Lenny Skutnik being recognized during the State of the Union speech. His wife (L) and Mrs. Reagan (R) applaud. (Photo by
Lenny Skutnik being recognized during the State of the Union speech in 1982.Frank Johnston/Washington Post/Getty Images

Reagan was the first president to bring a guest to honor at the State of the Union address, which began an annual tradition of recognizing everyday American heroes.

Congressional Budget Office employee Lenny Skutnik was honored for saving the life of Priscilla Tirado after an Air Florida plane crashed into the freezing Potomac River. He sat beside the First Lady during the address.

Bill Clinton called for an end to big government during his address in 1996.

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President Clinton during one of his State of the Union addresses.AP/ RON EDMONDS

In President Clinton’s 1996 address, which came after a 21-day government shutdown, he spoke of the need for an end to big government.

Later that year, he approved a Republican-sponsored idea for welfare reform.

Networks cut away from Clinton’s State of the Union address in 1997 to air the OJ Simpson verdict.

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Defendant OJ Simpson during his trial.Reuters

Clinton’s 1997 address was coming to an end right as the jury was about to deliver the verdict for OJ Simpson’s highly publicized criminal trial.

Networks cut straight from his address to the Simpson trial before the Republican response to Clinton’s address was aired.

George W. Bush coined “Axis of Evil” in his 2002 address, marking the beginning of the Iraq War.

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George W. Bush giving a State of the Union address.Luke Frazza/Getty Images

Soon after the 9/11 attacks, Bush labeled North Korea, Iran, and Iraq as an “Axis of Evil,” arguing in favor of what would become the Iraq War.

Justice Samuel Alito shook his head in disagreement during Obama’s 2010 State of the Union address.

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, left, and Sonia Sotomayor, center, are seen on Capitol Hill in Washington, prior to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address.
Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito prior to President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address.AP Photo/Pablo Martinez

As Obama criticized the Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance, the camera cut to Justice Samuel Alito, who quietly mouthed “not true,” according to Politico’s reports.

Joe Biden pointed during Obama’s State of the Union address.

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Biden’s facial expressions went viral.Fox News

During Obama’s State of the Union address in 2014, many couldn’t help but be distracted by former Vice President Joe Biden’s sudden pointing and laughing behind the president.

Many wondered what or who Biden was pointing at during the speech

It instantly became a meme and Biden later explained he was pointing up at a senator who he neglected to name.

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fell asleep during Obama’s 2015 State of the Union address.

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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg during Obama’s State of the Union address.Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP

Justice Ginsburg was caught on camera during Obama’s 2015 address with her head fully bowed, taking a nap.

Later, as per Reuters reports, she explained why her head was down: “The audience, for the most part, is awake, but they’re bobbing up and down all the time. And we sit there as stone-faced, sober judges. But we’re not. At least I wasn’t 100% sober when we went to the State of the Union.”

Donald Trump shrugged off a handshake from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi ahead of the 2020 State of the Union.

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Nancy Pelosi extending a hand to Donald Trump ahead of the State of the Union address on February 4, 2020.OLIVIER DOULIERY/AFP via Getty Images

When Trump entered the chambers to give his 2020 State of the Union speech, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi offered a handshake in an attempt at being cordial with the president.

He seemed to ignore her handshake and walked right past her. Pelosi shrugged it off and was seen shaking her head and looking down throughout the duration of his address.

Pelosi ripped up a copy of Trump’s 2020 State of the Union speech after he finished speaking.

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Nancy Pelosi ripping up pages of the prepared speech at President Donald Trump’s State of the Union on February 4, 2020.Mark Wilson/Getty Images

After he finished speaking during his 2020 State of the Union, Pelosi was seen ripping up a copy of Trump’s speech right behind him.

When asked why she did that, she said, “Because it was the courteous thing to do. It was the courteous thing to do considering the alternative.” It is not clear what she meant by “the alternative.”

Huge chunk of plants, animals in U.S. at risk of extinction -report

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Huge chunk of plants, animals in U.S. at risk of extinction -report

Brad Brooks – February 6, 2023

A Venus flytrap is seen at the meat-eating plant exhibition "Dejate Atrapar" (Let Yourself Get Caught), in Bogota
A Venus flytrap is seen at the meat-eating plant exhibition “Dejate Atrapar” (Let Yourself Get Caught), in Bogota
Endangered Key Deer are pictured in a puddle following Hurricane Irma in Big Pine Key, Florida
Endangered Key Deer are pictured in a puddle following Hurricane Irma in Big Pine Key, Florida
Endangered Arizona hedgehog cactus is seen in the Oak Flat recreation area outside Superior, Arizona
Endangered Arizona hedgehog cactus is seen in the Oak Flat recreation area outside Superior, Arizona
A full moon rises over a cactus in Phoenix
A full moon rises over a cactus in Phoenix
The endangered dusky gopher frog, a darkly colored, moderately sized frog with warts covering its back and dusky spots on its belly, is shown in this handout photo
The endangered dusky gopher frog, a darkly colored, moderately sized frog with warts covering its back and dusky spots on its belly, is shown in this handout photo

(Reuters) -A leading conservation research group found that 40% of animals and 34% of plants in the United States are at risk of extinction, while 41% of ecosystems are facing collapse.

Everything from crayfish and cacti to freshwater mussels and iconic American species such as the Venus flytrap are in danger of disappearing, a report released on Monday found.

NatureServe, which analyzes data from its network of over 1,000 scientists across the United States and Canada, said the report was its most comprehensive yet, synthesizing five decades’ worth of its own information on the health of animals, plants and ecosystems.

Importantly, the report pinpoints the areas in the United States where land is unprotected and where animals and plants are facing the most threats.

Sean O’Brien, president of NatureServe, said the conclusions of the report were “terrifying” and he hoped it would help lawmakers understand the urgency of passing protections, such as the Recovering America’s Wildlife Act that stalled out in Congress last year.

“If we want to maintain the panoply of biodiversity that we currently enjoy, we need to target the places where the biodiversity is most threatened,” O’Brien said. “This report allows us to do that.”

U.S. Representative Don Beyer, a Democrat who has proposed legislation to create a wildlife corridor system to rebuild threatened populations of fish, wildlife and plants, said NatureServe’s work would be critical to helping agencies identify what areas to prioritize and where to establish migration routes.

“The data reported by NatureServe is grim, a harrowing sign of the very real problems our wildlife and ecosystems are facing,” Beyer told Reuters. “I am thankful for their efforts, which will give a boost to efforts to protect biodiversity.”

HUMAN ENCROACHMENT

Among the species at risk of disappearing are icons like the carnivorous Venus flytrap, which is only found in the wild in a few counties of North and South Carolina.

Nearly half of all cacti species are at risk of extinction, while 200 species of trees, including a maple-leaf oak found in Arkansas, are also at risk of disappearing. Among ecosystems, America’s expansive temperate and boreal grasslands are among the most imperiled, with over half of 78 grassland types at risk of a range-wide collapse.

The threats against plants, animals and ecosystems are varied, the report found, but include “habitat degradation and land conversion, invasive species, damming and polluting of rivers, and climate change.”

California, Texas and the southeastern United States are where the highest percentages of plants, animals and ecosystems are at risk, the report found.

Those areas are both the richest in terms of biodiversity in the country, but also where population growth has boomed in recent decades, and where human encroachment on nature has been harshest, said Wesley Knapp, the chief botanist at NatureServe.

Knapp highlighted the threats facing plants, which typically get less conservation funding than animals. There are nearly 1,250 plants in NatureServe’s “critically imperiled” category, the final stage before extinction, meaning that conservationists have to decide where to spend scant funds even among the most vulnerable species to prevent extinctions.

“Which means a lot of plants are not going to get conservation attention. We’re almost in triage mode trying to keep our natural systems in place,” Knapp said.

‘NATURE SAVINGS ACCOUNT’

Vivian Negron-Ortiz, the president of the Botanical Society of America and a botanist with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, who was not involved in the NatureServe report, said there is still a lot scientists do not know and have not yet discovered about biodiversity in the United States, and that NatureServe’s data helped illuminate that darkness.

More than anything, she sees the new data as a call to action.

“This report shows the need for the public to help prevent the disappearance of many of our plant species,” she said. “The public can help by finding and engaging with local organizations that are actively working to protect wild places and conserve rare species.”

John Kanter, the senior wildlife biologist with the National Wildlife Federation, said the data in the report, which he was not involved with, was essential to guiding state and regional officials in creating impactful State Wildlife Action Plans (SWAPs), which they must do every 10 years to receive federal funding to protect vulnerable species.

Currently $50 million in federal funding is divided up among all states to carry out their SWAPs. The Recovering America’s Wildlife Act, whose congressional sponsors say will be reintroduced soon, would have increased that to $1.4 billion, which would have a huge impact on the state’s abilities to protect animals and ecosystems, Kanter said, and the NatureServe report can act as roadmap for officials to best spend their money.

“Our biodiversity and its conservation is like a ‘nature savings account’ and if we don’t have this kind of accounting of what’s out there and how’s it doing, and what are the threats, there’s no way to prioritize action,” Kanter said. “This new report is critical for that.”

Read more:

GRAPHIC-The collapse of insects

Penguins offer varied clues to Antarctic climate change

ANALYSIS-U.N. nature deal can help wildlife as long as countries deliver

(Reporting by Brad Brooks in Lubbock, Texas; Additional reporting by Julio-Cesar Chavez in Washington; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

George Santos has been accused of lying constantly. This is what experts say about the psychology of compulsive liars.

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George Santos has been accused of lying constantly. This is what experts say about the psychology of compulsive liars.

Alia Shoaib – February 5, 2023

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Rep. George Santos waits for the start of a session in the House chamber.Alex Brandon/AP Photo
  • Rep. George Santos has been accused of lying about events from the serious to the insignificant.
  • Experts said pathological lying could exist on its own or be a feature of a personality disorder.
  • What drives compulsive liars, and is George Santos one? This is what the experts say.

Rep. George Santos has been accused of being a fantasist, a fabulist, and an outright liar.

Each day appears to bring new allegations about the New York congressman.

He has gone by multiple names, admitted to lying about his college education and work history, falsely claimed he has Jewish heritage, and made multiple bizarre and disproved claims about his mother either dying in or being present during the 9/11 attacks.

Mired in scandal, Santos has said he will step down from serving on committees in the House of Representatives while he faces multiple investigations.

While everyone tells lies occasionally, some people appear to do so much more than others. So, why and how do people become compulsive liars? This is what the experts say.

What is a compulsive liar?

Christian Hart, a professor of psychology at Texas Woman’s University who specializes in pathological lying, told Insider that the terms “habitual liar,” “compulsive liar,” and “pathological liar” essentially mean the same thing — people who lie a lot.

Hart said that compulsive liars typically engage in excessive lying that causes some problems in the normal functioning of their lives, whether with work, romantic relationships, or with friends and family.

They typically have some kind of internal conflict over the lies, he said, as they want to stop but find themselves compulsively engaging in the behavior over and over again.

While Hart said he can’t formally diagnose the lawmaker without knowing details about whether he experiences functional problems or distress, he notes that Santos does appear to engage in pathological lying.

“In the sense that most people use the term ‘pathological lying,’ I’d say yes, it seems like he’s got this long track history preceding his entering into politics where he’s cultivated this reputation of being an extremely dishonest person,” Hart said.

So why do people lie? Hart explains that people don’t lie unless there is some incentive to do so — though this incentive might not always be obvious to an outsider.

Many of Santos’ lies appear to serve a clear purpose. He embellished his résumé while on the campaign trail, likely in an attempt to impress voters. He fabricated connections to the 9/11 attacks, possibly in order to burnish his reputation as a true New Yorker or to garner sympathy.

But along with lying about details about important elements of his life and history, Santos has also appeared to tell outlandish lies about seemingly insignificant things.

He has claimed that he was a successful volleyball player at the university he lied about attending, once allegedly told a former roommate that he was a model, and claimed to have acted in the “Hannah Montana” Disney movie.

“When people have historically defined pathological lying, many of them have said these people lie with no apparent reason. But I argue that it does serve a purpose, it’s just a purpose that we are unfamiliar with,” Hart said.

Santos, Hart said, “lied about being a star athlete on a volleyball team at a kind of a lower-tier college — that wouldn’t carry any cache for most people. But just because we can’t see the purpose of the lie doesn’t mean the purpose doesn’t exist for him. Perhaps, he’s always had a sense of inferiority about not being an athletic person, and so to be seen that way means a lot to him where it would mean nothing to other people.”

A representative for Santos did not reply to Insider’s request for comment.

Reporters surround embattled Rep. George Santos as he heads to the House Chamber for a vote, at the US Capitol on Tuesday, January 31, 2023 in Washington, DC.
Reporters surround embattled Rep. George Santos as he heads to the House Chamber for a vote, at the US Capitol on Tuesday, January 31, 2023 in Washington, DC.Kent Nishimura / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images

Hart has written a book about the science of pathological lying along with his colleague Drew Curtis, who is a psychology professor at Angelo State University.

Curtis told Insider that, like many psychological tendencies, pathological lying is often due to a combination of factors involving environment and genetics, both nature and nurture, and typically begins in later childhood and adolescence.

Do compulsive liars know they’re lying?

Many psychologists say compulsive lying is often a feature of a personality disorder, such as antisocial-personality disorder or narcissistic-personality disorder.

Compulsive lying is not, in itself, classified as a disorder in the DSM, the handbook healthcare professionals use as the guide to classifying mental-health disorders.

Curtis explained that it is important to distinguish people who are just pathological liars, and those that engage in pathological lying as part of a personality disorder — a key difference being that pathological liars do typically exhibit some remorse about lying.

While again Hart said he can’t formally diagnose him, he said Santos does appear to exhibit some traits of antisocial-personality disorder — where people manipulate and exploit others for personal benefit, with little guilt or remorse.

“Looking at the types of things that historically Santos has been accused of lying about and given his reaction when he’s confronted about those instances of dishonesty, he certainly seems that he could have many of the traits of antisocial-personality disorder,” Hart said.

Along with being accused of lying about things to boost his reputation, a military veteran has also accused Santos of pocketing $3,000 from a GoFundMe page for a dying dog, which the FBI is now probing.

Peers and the public have also raised questions about the congressman’s personal and campaign finances, which he is facing federal and local investigations over.

Typically, compulsive liars believe they won’t be caught and that any negative consequences from their lies are tolerable, according to Hart.

However, Santos’ lies are often well-documented, as he puts them in writing on social media or his websites, or verbalizes them in on-camera interviews.

Hart noted that it is “unusual” that Santos does not appear to be concerned about others discovering his lies and, in fact, “appears to just double down in many cases when he’s accused of lying.”

“That is unusual for him and unusual for many of the cases that we’ve explored of pathological liars,” Hart said. “It looks to me like he’s the type of person who doesn’t seem to worry too much about the reputation he’s cultivating around his honesty or dishonesty.”

Rep. George Santos.
Rep. George Santos.Patrick Semansky/AP Photo

When people lie constantly and repeatedly, it can be easy to question whether they are even aware that they are lying any more and whether they have simply become detached from reality.

In a recently leaked audio recording from January 30, obtained by Talking Points Memo, Santos admits to his track record of lying and appears to express frustration with himself.

“I’ve made bad judgment calls, and I’m reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls,” Santos said in the recording.

“I’ve obviously fucked up and lied to him, like I lied to everyone else,” Santos later said, apparently referring to his chief of staff Charley Lovett. “And he still forgave me and gave me a second shot, unlike some other people.”

Curtis noted that the fact that Santos has admitted to lying about some aspects of his past suggests a conscious deception.

“I think in the case of Santos, he’s come out, at least from my understanding, he’s come out and apologized and said, you know, this wasn’t necessarily true. So then if someone’s claiming that what they said wasn’t true, then I think it’s easier to say that was a deception, not a delusion,” Curtis said.

Professions like politics are more closely linked to lying

Curtis and Hart note in their research that certain professions, like sales and politics, are more closely linked with lying.

Hart explained that these professions do not necessarily attract dishonest people, but might push people toward dishonesty. For example, a salesperson may be dishonest if they must sell an inferior product. Similarly, politicians might not be able to be honest all of the time and so might find themselves exaggerating, concealing, or outright lying about things.

He noted that politicians who are willing to tell lies are actually more likely to get reelected than politicians who are unwilling to be dishonest.

How do you deal with compulsive liars?
Rep. George Santos.
Rep. George Santos.

Rep. George Santos.Mary Altaffer

Curtis and Hart note that pathological lying can be difficult to treat as it is not a formally recognized diagnosis.

As it currently stands, psychologists typically treat pathological liars with cognitive-behavioral therapy, a common type of talk therapy.

Outside of a professional setting, it can be hard to know how to respond to a compulsive liar. Hart suggested that the best way to respond to pathological liars is to call them out on their lies.

“Most people don’t like being called out on their lying and feel extremely uncomfortable, and they want to prevent any further reputational damage,” he said.

Curtis suggested ignoring the deception and intentionally giving attention to honest behavior instead.

“One of the real challenges of how to respond to pathological lying is that we give attention to their lies, which then can become reinforcing. So one of the suggestions we have is called ‘differential reinforcement of other behavior,’ where you ignore the deception. Then you have to intentionally give attention to honest behavior,” Curtis said.

“So, even when honesty may be mundane, not very exciting, we need to give that attention to the person who lies a lot.”

Jan. 6 panel witness Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump assaulted Secret Service agent

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Jan. 6 panel witness Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump assaulted Secret Service agent

Antonio Fins, Palm Beach Post – February 4, 2023

A witness has testified that a furious President Donald Trump assaulted the head of his Secret Service detail in the presidential vehicle after being told he could not go to the U.S. Capitol amid a mushrooming riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, related the account on Tuesday during her appearance before the U.S. House committee investigating the attack on the Capitol.

She said a top White House official, Tony Ornato, who served as White House deputy chief of staff, told her that story in the presence of the Secret Service agent, Robert Engel, with whom Trump had the altercation.

After Engel told Trump he could not go the Capitol due to security concerns, the then-president in a fit of anger was said to have reached for the steering wheel. When told to let it go, Trump then lunged at Engel, Hutchinson said Ornato told her.

Neither Ornato nor Engel ever told her the story was wrong, Hutchinson said during questioning.

That conversation, Hutchinson testified, took place moments after the president, his Secret Service detail and a group of aides, including Hutchinson, returned to the White House after Trump’s Jan. 6 rally speech.

Hutchinson also testified that Trump was irate before his speech because metal detectors were keeping armed rallygoers from entering the area closest to where he and others were speaking. Police reports, presented during the hearing, stated some attendees were carrying weapons, including AR-15s and “Glock-style pistols.”

But Hutchinson said Trump dismissed the obvious threat saying they were “not there to hurt me” and demanded that the metal detectors be taken away.

President Donald Trump passes supporters while traveling in his motorcade in West Palm Beach, Fla., on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 on his way to Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach.
President Donald Trump passes supporters while traveling in his motorcade in West Palm Beach, Fla., on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 on his way to Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach.

Hutchinson also said she received a call from GOP Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy who was angry that Trump had stated during his speech that he would march with rallygoers to the Capitol.

Another White House aide, lawyer Pat Cipollone, also warned that Trump’s plans to go to the Capitol would raise serious legal exposure and liability. And upon hearing of “hang Mike Pence chants” among Capitol rioters, Trump said: “Mike deserves it.”

Hutchinson also testified that she had helped a White House valet wipe ketchup stains after Trump threw a dish at a wall in anger. That followed Trump’s hearing that Attorney General William Barr had told the Associated Press on Dec. 1, 2020, that there was no evidence of massive electoral fraud.

Hutchinson offered the in-person testimony before the Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, violence on Capitol Hill as well as allegations that Trump abused his powers to remain in office despite losing the November 2020 election.

In a statement on Truth Social, Trump said he “hardly” knew Hutchinson, but then described her as “a total phony and ‘leaker.’ ” He also said he personally “turned her request down” when Hutchinson asked to join his team in Florida. “She is bad news,” he wrote.

He then posted 11 more missives on the platform denying he was dismissive of the threat against Pence and saying her “made up” statements were evidence of “a social climber.”

And Trump also denied he “complained” about the crowd for his Jan. 6 rally speech, or that he wanted to “make room for people with guns to watch my speech.”

An image of a photo shown during the sixth hearing of the U.S. House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
An image of a photo shown during the sixth hearing of the U.S. House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Antonio Fins is a politics and business editor at the Palm Beach Daily News, part of the USA TODAY Florida Network. 

Donald Trump and golf: Fancy resorts, A-List partners, cheating at highest level

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Donald Trump and golf: Fancy resorts, A-List partners, cheating at highest level

Tom D’Angelo, Palm Beach Post – February 3, 2023

Donald Trump has a long (creative) history with golf. He owns fancy resorts and lavish courses around the world. He has played with the biggest names. And he’s received endorsements from some of the most well-known golfers in the world. Even besides himself.

But above all, the former president’s dubious claims on the course have become legendary, and were the subject of a 2019 book by sportswriter Rick Reilly: Commander in Cheat.

“Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf,” Riley wrote. “He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: ‘Pele.’”

President Donald Trump tweeted this photo after golfing with local golf legends Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods on Saturday, Feb. 2, 2019
President Donald Trump tweeted this photo after golfing with local golf legends Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods on Saturday, Feb. 2, 2019

Trump a self-proclaimed champion:Trump declares himself the winner of his own club championship – in the Trumpiest way ever

Trump and LIV Golf:Trump spends LIV pro-am praising his game and proving Joe Biden is in his head | D’Angelo

Just ask members of Trump International West Palm Beach who arrived for the final round of their Senior Club Championship on Jan. 22 only to find Trump’s name at the top of the leaderboard … when he didn’t play the first round.

But he did play a round earlier that week, claimed he had a good day and decided to use that score for the first round of the Senior Club Championship. He then called it a “great honor” to have won the tournament on social media, adding, “he was hitting the ball long and straight.”

Those who know him certainly were not surprised.

Here is some of the history Trump, who lives in Palm Beach, has with golf:

Courses around the world

Trumpgolf.com lists 18 courses under the heading ‘Our Properties’, including 12 in the United States. Of those, three are in Florida: Jupiter, West Palm Beach, Doral.

Those courses have hosted many PGA and LPGA events, but Trump’s relationship with the PGA Tour soured in 2016 when the tour moved the World Golf Championship out of Trump National Doral and to Mexico City after losing its sponsor, Cadillac.

This angered Trump for so many reasons. His attitude toward Mexico was made clear as he prepared to run for president when he said of the country: “They are not our friend, believe me. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

That continued when learning the tour was dropping Doral for Mexico City. “They’re moving it to Mexico City which, by the way, I hope they have kidnapping insurance.”

That relationship fractured even more when the PGA of America took a major away from one of Trump’s courses four days after Trump supporters rioted at the United States Capitol. The organization moved the 2022 PGA Championship from Trump’s course in Bedminster, N.J., to Southern Hills in Tulsa, Okla.

All of this led to Trump’s support for LIV Golf, the startup league headed by Palm Beach Gardens’ Greg Norman and financed by the Saudis. LIV has become a rival of the PGA Tour and three LIV events this year will be held at Trump properties.

The old switcheroo

Ted Virtue, founder and CEO of MidOcean Partners, a New York-based alternative asset management firm, won the club championship at West Palm Beach when Trump was president. At the time, Trump was in Singapore and missed the event.

Here is the story Reilly told and also was reported in Golf.com.

Trump sees Virtue on the back nine of the course one day and tells him he didn’t really win the club championship, “because I was out of town.” So he tells Virtue they will start there and play to see who the real champion is. Virtue has no choice.

“Apparently, they get to a hole with a big pond in front of the green,” Reilly said. “Both Ted and his son hit the ball on the green, but Trump hits his in the water. By the time they get to the hole, though, Trump is lining up the son’s ball. Only now it’s his ball and the caddie has switched it.

“The son is like, ‘That’s my ball!’ But Trump’s caddie goes, ‘No, this is the president’s ball; your ball went in the water.’ … Trump makes that putt, and wins one up.”

Where’d that ball come from?

Trump was playing in a charity event at a prestigious South Florida course when he was part of a foursome that included an NFL quarterback and professional golfer, according to a participant who was at the event.

On a par-3 that was playing more than 200 yards, no one hit the green, including Trump, whose tee shot clearly was short.

Two of the golfers flew the green, the balls landing in a gully. As they walked back up the hill to check out the pin placement, they noticed a ball sitting feet from the hole.

Trump tells them it was his ball and they must have not seen his tee shot land on the green.

“This guy cheats like a Mafia accountant,” Reilly once told Vox.com.

Mark Cuban feud

Trump and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban had a legendary feud in 2013, with Trump attacking Cuban’s team and, of course, his golf.

By the end of a two day meltdown, and after Trump said he won yet another club championship at West Palm Beach, Trump pulled out the big guns:

“I’ve won 18 Club Championships including this weekend. @mcuban swings like a little girl with no power or talent. Mark’s a loser.”

Trump now has claimed to have won more than 20 club championships. Reilly once said the best player at that level he knows had won eight.

Reilly said in the Vox interview Trump told him whenever he opens a new golf course he plays the first club championship by himself and declares that the champion and puts his name on the wall.

“But it’s usually just him and Melania in the cart and nobody else,” Reilly said. “He just makes it up.”

Tiger tale

Soon after he became president Trump set up a foursome with Brad Faxon, Tiger Woods and Dustin Johnson. Trump and Faxon were partners.

Trump was allowed to hit from closer tees and was allowed to subtract a stroke on the eight hardest holes. On one hole, Trump hits his tee shot into the water and tells Faxon to throw him a ball. “They weren’t looking,” he said. His second tee shot goes into the water. So he drops where he should have after his first water ball, hits what was his fifth shot. After making what actually was a seven, the players were asked their scores.

When Trump was told Tiger made a three, he says he made “four for a three (with the stroke).”

‘Tough luck’

Trump invited football announcers/analysts Mike Tirico, Jon Gruden and Ron Jaworski to one of his courses. He chose Gruden as his partner.

Tirico hit a 3-wood about 230 yards onto the green on one hole. When he arrived the ball was in a bunker about 50 feet from the pin.

“Tough break,” Trump said.

Tirico later was told by Trump’s caddie that his shot was about 10 feet from the hole and Trump threw it into the bunker.

“I watched him do it,” the caddie said.

So how good is Trump at golf?

Depends who you ask. Hall of Famer Ernie Els witnessed a hole-in-one by Trump last year at West Palm Beach. I asked Els to assess Trump’s game.

“He can really strike the ball,” Els said. “He makes good contact. He’s got a good swing. Like any amateur, you got to do the short game practice. I keep talking to him about his chipping. He’s a pretty good putter. Back in his day, he had to be a 4- or 5-handicap. Today, he’s probably a 10, 12.”

If you praise Trump’s game, it’s definitely not fake news.

Trump has played with the best of the best. Jack Nicklaus, Els, Woods, Johnson, Rory McIlroy, Bryson DeChambeau, Brooks Koepka among them.

“President Trump plays pretty well, not bad at all,” Nicklaus said in 2020.

Koepka played nine holes with Trump last year in the Pro-Am at Doral before the LIV event. When asked about Trump’s game he gave a lukewarm endorsement.

“I think he’s actually a pretty good putter,” Koepka said. “He had a lot of good putts today that just didn’t go in.”

Trump stopped several times to chat between holes during the Pro-Am at Doral. “Where are the golf writers?” he said at one point. “What do you think? Trump is pretty good, isn’t he?”

Later, when he was asked what he thought about his game, Trump said: “I hit it straight, I hit good drives, I hit good irons.”

Tom D’Angelo is the senior sports columnist for The Palm Beach Post.

Russia’s Shadow Army Accused in Mysterious Teen Abductions

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Russia’s Shadow Army Accused in Mysterious Teen Abductions

Philip Obaji Jr. – February 2, 2023

Photo Illustration by Erin O’Flynn/The Daily Beast/Getty Images
Photo Illustration by Erin O’Flynn/The Daily Beast/Getty Images

KENZOU, Cameroon—It was the middle of the night when armed men from the local wing of Russia’s Wagner Group, commonly referred to as “Black Russians,” allegedly arrived at Ali’s home.

“They looked straight into my eyes and said, ‘If you don’t come back to us, you and your family will be killed,’” Ali, who had spent close to a year working closely with the Wagner Group, told The Daily Beast. “They left without saying anything else.”

Ali’s wife, his three adolescent daughters and three adult brothers were allegedly at their three-bedroom home in the outskirts of Berbérati—a city in the southwest of the Central African Republic (CAR)—when the men arrived armed with machine guns. “As they stepped out of the house, one of them looked at me and said ‘Tell your husband to do what is right or else all of you will suffer,’” Fatou*, Ali’s wife, told The Daily Beast.

Minutes later, the armed men allegedly stormed the nearby home of Hassan* and issued him a similar warning, but with a more severe punishment for allegedly masterminding the exit of several Black Russians from the Wagner Group.

“They said if I don’t return to the [Black Russians] group they’ll seize me and my family and torture us for days before they eventually kill us,” Hassan, a former Black Russian who was living in a two-bedroom home with his mother and two teenage sons when the armed men arrived, told The Daily Beast. “They believe I have been the one encouraging other members to leave the group because I was among the first to quit.”

Russia’s Secret Recruits Allegedly Abandoned, Starving, and Missing in Action

The Wagner Group, which showed up in the war-torn Central African Republic around 2018, has relied heavily on local recruits since last year, after hundreds of its Russian mercenaries were pulled from Central Africa and sent to Ukraine to fight Vladimir Putin’s war. But poor welfare for Black Russians—and fear that they could be deployed to fight overseas without compensation or insurance—has forced many to abandon the group.

The threats to their families weren’t enough to force Ali and Hassan back to the group. Both men subsequently stayed away from their homes to avoid being captured and killed—the kind of punishment the Wagner Group is known to hand out to fighters who disobey orders or desert the organization.

“We didn’t take their threat of harming our families seriously because that is not how they [Wagner mercenaries and local recruits] are known to act,” said Ali, who—along with Hassan—had to squat in a faraway unfinished building, where construction work had long been abandoned, to hide from their former colleagues. “Throughout the time we worked with them, no one targeted anyone’s family. When you commit an offense, you face the consequences on your own.”

Ali and Hassan would later realize that they misjudged the group they had been part of—and that their refusal to rejoin the Black Russians could prove costly.

According to Hassan’s family, the same men who visited the previous week returned to his home and seized his two sons, who are 15 and 13 years old, vowing not to release them until their father returns to the Wagner unit to face discipline. Hassan and his mother, who was the only one at home with the boys when they were taken away, fled to Cameroon the following day as they feared their lives were in danger.

“They dragged my grandsons from the house and threw them into a [pickup] truck and then drove them away,” Hassan’s mother Bintou* told The Daily Beast in the Cameroonian border town of Kenzou, where she and her son live in a single-room mud house. “We don’t even know whether he is dead or alive.”

On the same day Hassan’s sons were seized, Ali’s three younger brothers, who are 27, 24, and 23 years old, left home in the morning to attend a music festival at a playground just outside Berbérati. But they never returned home and no one has seen them since then, according to family members who believe the Wagner Group is responsible for their disappearances.

“It must be the same people who came to our home to threaten us that kidnapped them,” said Ali, who also fled Berbérati to Kenzou along with his wife and daughters. “They want me to meet face to face with them, that’s why they are holding my brothers.”

Three years ago, Ali and Hassan joined the Union for Peace (UPC), a Central African rebel group fighting for control of the Ouaka central province, located at the border between the mainly Muslim north and the predominantly Christian south. Their involvement with the UPC, whose leader Ali Darassa was sanctioned over a year ago by the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) “for serious human rights abuses”, lasted only a few months. It was cut short by an enticing offer from Wagner Group, run by Putin’s close friend and ally Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Ali and Hassan were among hundreds of UPC rebels who surrendered to the CAR military in December 2021 after both men said they were promised a chance to work with the Wagner Group and earn a monthly pay of about $1,000.

But when Wagner stopped paying some Black Russians after a few months, and many local recruits mysteriously disappeared towards the end of 2022, both Ali and Hassan decided to leave the group and move away from their base in the capital Bangui to Berbérati.

“The main reason some of us left the [Black Russians] group is because we feared they could send us to war in Ukraine without giving us the chance to inform our families,” said Ali, who has been in touch with some of his colleagues deployed to Ukraine in the early months of Russia’s invasion and allegedly abandoned thereafter. “If we die on the battlefield, no one would know anything about it.”

Ali and Hassan believe the Wagner Group’s decision to not reveal the whereabouts of Black Russians deployed to Ukraine’s Donbas region is based on financial reasoning.

“They don’t want to pay the death benefit they promised they will pay to families of fighters who died while in active service,” said Hassan. “If families don’t know their sons are fighting in Ukraine, they won’t also know when they are killed in combat and can’t demand death benefit as a result.”

For years, and especially since a brutal civil war broke out in CAR in 2013, the Cameroonian border town of Kenzou has welcomed thousands of refugees fleeing the conflict in their country. Now, the commercial town has a new type of guests: ex-Wagner recruits running away from imminent attacks from their former employers.

“We know for sure that there are former CAR rebels now living in this town with us,” Vincent Olembe, a local chief in Kenzou, told The Daily Beast. “Luckily, they’ve assured us that they aren’t here for trouble but were forced from their country because their lives were in danger.”

Putin’s Prison Recruiting Scheme Takes a Big, Desperate Turn

The CAR government and Prigozhin did not respond to a series of requests for comment on the allegations made by Ali and Hassan. The Daily Beast sent emails to the spokesperson of the CAR government and to Concord Management, a company majority-owned by Prigozhin, but did not receive a reply.

In Kenzou, Ali and Hassan are confident that their family members wouldn’t be hurt by the Wagner Group or those working closely with them. They believe the Russians will use them as leverage.

“If they [the seized family members] were women, I would have been worried,” said Hassan, who—like Ali—turns 40 this year. “But from the way I know them to operate, anyone who is arrested or captured is offered a chance to join the Black Russians and be forgiven or punished if he refuses.”

One day, said Hassan, “I’ll reunite with my boys.”

*The names of these sources have been changed for fear of retribution.